Women, bad boys, blahblahblah: The Redux! part II
Continuing from yesterday…
“Whatcha gonna do / When they come for you?”
So why exactly does a bad boy seem to “get” more women? Leaving aside the repugnant assumptions inherent in that query (which would be an article in itself), the simple answer seems to be they’re self-centered and arrogant enough to simply keep propositioning one woman after another until they find the ones insecure or weak enough to say yes. This is not to say these women don’t know they’re with a bad boy, or even that they’re happy about it. Hm… thinking about it, I could also see the possibility that a strong and secure woman might say yes, simply because she’s amused and would like a quick fling.
Two correspondents sent me links which I found interesting. The first one is Bad guys really do get the most girls (click here if that link is dead). I have two issues with this report — both of which might well be easily cleared up simply by reading the original studies, but unfortunately they’re not actually cited. First, it is highly questionable science to examine behavior patterns now in existence — and then assert these must be based on genetic evolution. To do so implies we should be able to find those genes — and I’ve yet to read a report on the amazing discovery of the male’s “selfish-asshole” gene. ;)
Thank goodness for that, too. Biology is not destiny, after all… and we can chose to change our behaviors — like rational and sapient adults.
Secondly, while this report seems to assume bad boys are validated by these behaviors being supposedly being evolutionary traits, I don’t find that a compelling argument. It’s been my experience “it’s evolution!” is used as validation, and is well reported by the media, only when the study in question glorifies those in power. When the supposed evolutionary trait shows men are not as dominant and fierce and powerful as they’d like to see themselves, the study is instead either politely ignored, or actively attacked.
As an example, we could rightfully assert that since we are most closely related to the bonobo chimpanzee, the “correct” and “natural” human society is one which closely approximates bonobo society. Such a society would be one where (for a quick example) matrilines dominate and any male foolish enough to strike a female will be rapidly swamped or driven out by that female’s infuriated female relatives. Further, male social success would be predicated mostly on whether the male in question had the fortune to be born into a matriline led by a dominant female.
No, I don’t see that happening any time soon either. Pity. I like bonobos. ;)
The second link (thanks, George!) leads to a “dating advice” column which also basically agrees with what I concluded, even as it made me wince at how that conclusion was presented: Dating Secret Exposed: Why Nice Guys Finish Last (click here if that link is dead). I was a bit appalled at the inherent assumption that people are either property or prizes to be won, along with the implied push for “real” men to be “players.” Despite that, however, I do think a relevant message — for both men and women — can be found in it: Value Yourself.
“To write well, is to think well” — George Buffon
Argh, my horribly death-full prose! I can tell the original article was a very early Firestarter: I jump around too much ideologically, I do not always leave a mental “breadcrumb trail” for my conclusions, and I’d not yet learned to a) link to every referenced source I could, and b) keep text copies of the sources for if/when those links went dead! Well, at least the closure was a nice call to action — I always prefer to hear about an issue and how I can help, as opposed to reading nothing more than a depressing litany of how much something sucks and we’re all doomed — doomed, I tell you!
Hm… re-reading, I see there’s at least one thought thread in the article where I found myself thinking, “What does this add to my argument?!” Wondering what point I was trying to make: not a good sign! Ah, well. I like to think my mental processes, as well as my writing, have improved since then. ;)
Also, I have a question for my readers: it was recommended to me that I break up my longer Firestarters somewhat. Instead of having the entire article available on one web page, my friend suggested I have no more than two screens’ worth of article at a time, and “roll over” the rest of the article, two screens’ worth at a time, to following days. This particular article is the first time I’ve tried it. What do you all think? Is it annoying to wait, or intriguing? Is it easier to read, or more difficult to follow argument threads? Should I stop doing it, or do it more or less?
More thoughts tomorrow! :)
Ok, I just wrote you a novella comment, and I can’t find it. Do you approve the comments before they show up?
Yes, I’m afraid I have to — currently I have over 500 spam messages caught in the automated spam bucket for the past month. Also, I can’t just trust the program to take care of it, as I’ve had two messages which weren’t spam caught by it. The odds are excellent it usually *would* be sufficient, but I don’t want to be rude and accidentally delete someone who was honestly trying to give a courteous opinion, you know? :)
Sorry I haven’t commented yet. Mainly it’s because I agree with most of what you have said, or at the very least have no valid reason to disagree. My experiences as the proverbial ‘nice guy’ seem to agree with your theses, with one anomalous exception. There was a young lady friend in college who had an emotionally abusive boyfriend. I became the knight in shining armor, the shoulder to cry on, and eventually we strayed beyond friendship. Unfortunately for me I was the type who would do anything and everything I could to please my lady, and before too long she dumped me for being “too nice” and went back to the asshole. I have, over the years, learned that while most women don’t want a complete asshole, they also don’t want a man who will become their devoted servant, either.
Growing up in the 80’s was a very difficult time to be male. We were told to cry, to be sensitive, that to be stereotypically male, i.e. brutish and selfish, was to be abhored. Consequently, by the time the inevitable overcompensation came in the 90’s, I was so confused as to how to behave toward women that I couldn’t tell if I was supposed to bonk them over the head and drag them back to my cave, or write poetry on rose petals and strew them before their every step. Eventually I learned to just be myself, and I did finally find a woman who loves me for that, but the whole mating dance that dominates our early lives is a very complicated one, with confusion and assumptions on both sides. The regrettable truth is that the two halves of the gene pool are covered with the scum of popular culture, and too many people get their ideas of proper behavior from celebrities and hack TV ‘doctors’ who are, themselves, some of the most fucked up people on the planet.
As for breaking up your longer posts, it’s probably not a bad idea. I generally read your blog over my morning coffee, and I’ll admit some mornings when I see my whole screen taken up, with more to go below, I just don’t have the stamina to tackle it and put it off til later. However, that being said, this is your sandbox, and I’ll continue to read even if you choose to post in Pig Latin, so do what makes you most comfortable and likely to continue posting.
TTFN. :-)
Hm, I like that rose petal idea… :)
I agree the “mating dance” is a difficult one, although I suspect a major portion of that is due to the exaggerated emphasis and importance our society places on it. If, frex, children were allowed to safely sexually experiment without all the attendant shame and guilt we shoveled onto them… then I suspect the current complexity and difficulty of partnering would simply be shoved off onto some other cultural ritual. But hey, sex would sure be a lot easier. :)
Re breaking up the posts: you’re the third person to agree on that, and I’ve had no one vote against it yet, so… guess I shall! Thanks for the input.